Does it though? On what basis is your brain (my brain) separate from your Self (wants the kill me).
You’re not actually balancing nature and nurture, you’re letting both of them off the hook alongside with any concept of personal responsibility too.
Dualism is not the answer, dualism is the problem. There is nothing (and especially not any mystical substance) separating the brain from the mind and body (Self). It’s one whole. The whole which interacts with other wholes and the symbolic order of society. In this interplay is where mental illness is generated because it’s the only locus where it could be generated.
This is not to negate biology, as it is clear that some illnesses like schizophrenia and autism are hereditary and have genetic components. But again, not even your genes are a separate entity from You. There are no separate entities within you. There is only the one whole living entity. This is the meaning of no body or mind is wrong by itself.
Difficulties in life and functioning which are the criteria to say something is an illness (why schizophrenia is an illness while homosexuality is not) arise in the interpersonal and social interactions of the Wholes, which are subjected to the symbolic order in addition to the natural order. They are entwined however, and any separation of the two is purely academical. I can give you a Christian analogy here. The natural order is The Father (God) and the symbolic order is the Word (Jesus Christ) who is as we all know begotten but not created (in the beginning there was the Word and the Word was with God).
So, it is from this, my view, entirely wrong to say that the these orders could stand in such opposition that one wants to kill the other.
Suicidality is not your brain wanting to kill your body. It’s you wanting to kill yourself because your pain has become unbearable. It’s a signal that you require help.
Now in my vision or Marxist psychotherapy this help would not consist of just meds and a few encouraging words but of consistent and persistent intervention in your life and your community so that you could be rehabilitated and reconnected to both of the orders in a harmonious way. It would be a deep examination of personality and ways in which both you and the community have made errors in mutual understanding and interaction.
Sorry for this to be so long. I believe in a worldview called Monism which is to say the least unpopular these days. If it’s a bit rambling it’s only because I’ve been thinking about these things a lot during my current treatment.
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Date: May 27th, 2025 08:19 (UTC)Does it though? On what basis is your brain (my brain) separate from your Self (wants the kill me). You’re not actually balancing nature and nurture, you’re letting both of them off the hook alongside with any concept of personal responsibility too.
Dualism is not the answer, dualism is the problem. There is nothing (and especially not any mystical substance) separating the brain from the mind and body (Self). It’s one whole. The whole which interacts with other wholes and the symbolic order of society. In this interplay is where mental illness is generated because it’s the only locus where it could be generated.
This is not to negate biology, as it is clear that some illnesses like schizophrenia and autism are hereditary and have genetic components. But again, not even your genes are a separate entity from You. There are no separate entities within you. There is only the one whole living entity. This is the meaning of no body or mind is wrong by itself.
Difficulties in life and functioning which are the criteria to say something is an illness (why schizophrenia is an illness while homosexuality is not) arise in the interpersonal and social interactions of the Wholes, which are subjected to the symbolic order in addition to the natural order. They are entwined however, and any separation of the two is purely academical. I can give you a Christian analogy here. The natural order is The Father (God) and the symbolic order is the Word (Jesus Christ) who is as we all know begotten but not created (in the beginning there was the Word and the Word was with God).
So, it is from this, my view, entirely wrong to say that the these orders could stand in such opposition that one wants to kill the other.
Suicidality is not your brain wanting to kill your body. It’s you wanting to kill yourself because your pain has become unbearable. It’s a signal that you require help.
Now in my vision or Marxist psychotherapy this help would not consist of just meds and a few encouraging words but of consistent and persistent intervention in your life and your community so that you could be rehabilitated and reconnected to both of the orders in a harmonious way. It would be a deep examination of personality and ways in which both you and the community have made errors in mutual understanding and interaction.
Sorry for this to be so long. I believe in a worldview called Monism which is to say the least unpopular these days. If it’s a bit rambling it’s only because I’ve been thinking about these things a lot during my current treatment.